DDPD wrote:Great game, but I can't help but feel that the planet rush is a game mechanic of yesteryear.
DDPD wrote:Great game, but I can't help but feel that the planet rush is a game mechanic of yesteryear. There's VERY LITTLE holding me back from settling EVERYTHING and I think it leads to two of SiS' biggest issues: micromanagement of planets and the snowballing issue.
TheDeadlyShoe wrote:well, one element of most 4x games (including sis) that forces expansion is the technological virtuous circle. Scientific progress increases your efficiency; higher efficiency increases your science production and increases your ability to expand; thus a larger empire will find it easier to produce more ships, better ships, it will produce more science per planet than a smaller empire, and so on and so forth. Quite ironically, larger empires punch above their weight. This can produce some weird results, depending on the game; expansion-oriented races can end up being better at technology than research oriented races, and vice versa - research oriented races snowball efficiency enough to expand better than expansion races.
Delinking science from empire size helps to limit this effect. Distant Worlds uses a curve for science input that drastically limits how much impact empire size has on science progress beyond a certain point - percentage bonuses, such as from racial bonuses, special events, unique planets and anomalies have a bigger impact; Stellaris has a mechanic where increased empire size increases the cost of technologies.
Arioch wrote:In SIS, most science comes from infrastructure rather than directly from population, so science output is mostly about how much you invest in it. I think this is logical and appropriate. A large Yoral empire that doesn't build Labs will usually not out-tech a smaller Orthin empire that has invested heavily in Labs.
The outlier that I can think of is that it's pretty easy for large empires to create dedicated research colonies on small and otherwise useless worlds, which can collectively generate a lot of science. This is something which we might want to look at in terms of diminishing returns.
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